- Admiral Conan Antonio Motti: Dangerous to your star fleet, Commander. Not to this battle station.
- Tagge: The Rebellion will continue to gain a support in the Imperial Senate–
- Grand Moff Wilhuff Tarkin: [walking in with Darth Vader] The Imperial Senate will no longer be of any concern to us. I have just received word that the Emperor has dissolved the council permanently. The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.
- Tagge: That's impossible! How will the Emperor maintain control without the bureaucracy?
- Tarkin: The regional governors now have direct control over their territories. Fear will keep the local systems in line. Fear of this battle station.
- Tagge: And what of the Rebellion? If the Rebels have obtained a complete technical readout of this station, it is possible — however unlikely — that they might find a weakness and exploit it.
- Vader: The plans you refer to will soon be back in our hands.
- Motti: Any attack made by the Rebels against this station would be a useless gesture, no matter what technical data they've obtained. This station is now the ultimate power in the universe! I suggest we use it.
- Vader: Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed. The ability to destroy a planet, or even a whole system, is insignificant next to the power of the Force.
- Motti: Don't try to frighten us with your sorcerer's ways, Lord Vader. [Vader walks toward Motti, then slowly raises his hand] Your sad devotion to that ancient religion has not helped you conjure up the stolen data tapes or given you clairvoyance enough to find the Rebels' hidden fortr–– [grasps his throat as if he is being choked]
- Vader: I find your lack of faith disturbing.
- Tarkin: Enough of this. Vader, release him!
- Vader: As you wish. [drops his hand and Motti's head hits the table as he regains his breath]
- Tarkin: This bickering is pointless. Lord Vader will provide us with the location of the Rebel fortress by the time this station is operational. We will then crush the Rebellion with one swift strike.
- ~From Star Wars: Episode IV: A New Hope.
- ...
Oh you set your course for the furthest shores
And you never once looked back
And the flag you flew was a pirate cross
On a field of velvet black
And those landsmen who you but lately knew
Were left stranded on the lea
Don't call on them when the storm clouds rise
On the dark and the rolling sea.Oh I have no need of a chart or creed
You told your waiting crew
For the winds of chance, they will bear us straight
And you spoke as though you knew
So you paid no mind to the warning signs
As you gave your words so free
Don't change your tack when the timbers crack
On the dark and the rolling sea
Now the thunder rails in the great mainsails
And the stars desert the skies
And the rigging strains as the hands of rain
Reach down to wash your eyes
And your oarsmen stands with his knife in hand
And his eyes spell mutiny
Don't call my name when your ship goes down
On the dark and the rolling sea.
~Al Stewart,
On the dark and rolling sea. For some reason I'm reminded of one Saturday back in January or February of 2007. It was a Saturday, my late best friend Carl was at my house, Saturday, gaming day, and we were binge-watching Seasons 5 and 6 of Oz. We'd all worked the night before and were strung out on Monsters and junk food.
- There's this episode in Season 5 of Oz where Robson, the profoundly unlikeable and unsympathetic Aryan sidekick, gets thrown out of the Brotherhood and very quickly ends up the "Prag" (Prison bitch) of Cutler, one of the other Aryans, who then proceeds to sexually assault him.
- Right about the that scene, my partner (then ex-girlfriend/roomie) comes by in her pajamas, Ugg clogs and Carhartt jacket, going outside for a cigarette.
- Stops.
- Looks at the TV. "What ya watchin'??
- Before we could react...
- "OH MY GOD WHAT THE FUCK?!?!"
- Now mind you, she was also Carl's ex-girlfriend, we all worked Third Shift at the casino together. We routinely joked about horrible shit at work. My partner was the Tough Bitch who at least once per shift joked about keeping my balls in her purse and/or threatened to feed some other dudes testicles to my Schnauzer.
- Frozen. Whiter than a ghost. Look of absolute horror on her face like a scared little girl.
- She finally recovered her wits and went outside to smoke her cigarette.
- We shut the shit off and went outside to talk to her and make sure she was OK. We ended up calming her down and taking it a bit easy in the following gaming session for the sake of her nerves.
- I don't feel at liberty to discuss why she reacted the way she did.
- This story is not about my Partner.
- Proclaim ye this among the Gentiles; Prepare war, wake up the mighty men, let all the men of war draw near; let them come up: Beat your plowshares into swords and your pruning-hooks into spears: let the weak say, I am strong. Assemble yourselves, and come, all ye heathen, and gather yourselves together round about: thither cause thy mighty ones to come down, O Lord. Let the heathen be wakened, and come up to the valley of Jehoshaphat: for there will I sit to judge all the heathen round about. Put ye in the sickle, for the harvest is ripe: come, get you down; for the press is full, the fats overflow; for their wickedness is great. Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for the day of the Lord is near in the valley of decision. ~Joel 3:9-14
- I saw this last night when I got up for work.
- According to Marjorie Taylor Greene, Trump & Co. are talking about using Nuclear Weapons in Iran.
- If you don't see what the problem is with that, I'm not going to help you. You figure it out.
- Regarding MTG, she has often struck me as a lot less insane than her public persona suggests, and since the whole Epstein files debacle she seems to have at least some genuine principles. Like my partner when she was 20, a lot of what MTG used to do was Kayfabe.
- Not sure why, possibly political utility as much as anything else. At this point I'm not going to judge. We have bigger problems.
- Let me tell you WHY:
- I'm a United States Air Force bomb and missile wing veteran.
- I was an Air Force Security Policeman. None of this stuff is anything to fuck around with, use lightly, or honestly of any real tactical use on the battlefield unless things for one's own conventional forces are so fucked that there's nothing else left.
- There's a reason there's been 50+ years of cuts to the arsenal.
- Once used, the goddamn things create more trouble than they're worth, and that's where we lose even worse.
- The thing about the Death Star is the Empire itself read it wrong, it was primarily a deterrent value. Once used? It wasn't that. Once used, too many peoples, planetary governments and so on, too many individual people...figured it was fight back or get blown up anyway.
- And too much of their military doctrine was based on (as Rogue One made the comparison directly) the Star Wars version of the nuclear option. Anybody who sat through the Air Force's bullshit classes on Just War Theory can tell you this is actually a terrible idea.
- You think the public in the Islamic world (where we have a fuck-ton of bases that require the goodwill of locals to exist much less operate) would stand for this??
- That's a big hell No.
Not least because if you drop a nuke in Iran, aside from potentially millions of casualties there...unless you're specifically targeting places where features such as mountain ranges or valleys would contain most of the fallout? If the wind is blowing southerly or westward, fallout and radiation is going to affect either much of the rest of the Middle East, starting with Iraq, Kuwait, and Saudi Arabia but eventually reaching places like Jordan, Israel (A nuclear power we'd have thrown into an unstable situation by doing this!) and Egypt. Or, if the wind is blowing east, it hits fellow nuclear powers Pakistan, India and very likely China. Anything going north is going to hit Russia. That's casualties in those countries too.
- Think about that, will ya??
- Any government...not just in the Middle East but likely globally...that wouldn't condemn this shit in the strongest possible terms and summarily eject not only US forces but US interests very likely at gunpoint, is going to get overthrown. If you think (for example) the public in a place like Saudi Arabia (where Radical Islam really is a nonzero percentage of the population) is going to stand for mass murder of civilians in a fellow Muslim nation or the fact that the next few days might see ash falling like radioactive snow on the Rub-Al-Khali, Riyadh, and the holy places of Makkah and Medina??
- Think about that for a second too.
- No way it's just the Iranians shouting "Death To America" at that point.
- Homie, if you think that's not gonna lead to even MBS picking up the phone with shaking hands as he hears the chants of the mobs in the streets and calling Trump and telling him to go fuck himself and to get our military and every other goddamn thing out of his country??
- And being filmed and publicly seen doing so?
- You're straight-up wrong.
- Same for every Emir and Sheikh and Sultan and Wazir and every other damned thing that has any business with us because just for one example...even if they totally supported anything their government did to the contrary (and militaries, being composed of people, seldom do) the Royal Saudi Armed Forces does not have enough guns and ammunition to prevent that whole country from being overthrown in such a case as the Kingdom siding with the Murderers Of Persia and expect the keys being handed to whatever Radical Islamist cleric promises to cornhole The Great Satan for Allah by next week.
- We have never failed to forget that cultural win conditions are different over there. Martyrdom is glorified. People who want to live to lord their Racism and whatever Power they think they have over the [Racial Expletive Deleted] next door and who don't believe much of anything at all, really, are gonna have a hard time understanding a Billion+ people screaming for their blood in genuine rage at mass murder, environmental destruction, etc. And if they die?? So what? They're going to the highest levels of the Heavens for getting killed in the service of a righteous cause.
- If America actually followed the Lord's Word instead of Babylon Bullshit and the Prosperity Gospel, we might understand that.
- (Some of us who've been over there and actually listened to the people actually already do.)
Hospitaler: One may stare into the light, until one becomes the light. I've done it many times.
Balian of Ibelin: [throws a rock at a bush that catches fire by the spark] There's your religion. One spark, a creosote bush. There's your Moses. I did not hear it speak.
Hospitaler: That does not mean that there is no God. Do you love her?
Balian of Ibelin: Yes.
Hospitaler: The heart will mend. Your duty is to the people of the city. I go to pray.
Balian of Ibelin: For what?
Hospitaler: For the strength to endure what is to come.
Balian of Ibelin: And what is to come?
Hospitaler: The reckoning is to come for what was done one hundred years before. The Muslims will never forget. Nor should they.
[the Hospitaler slowly walks away as a second bush several yards from the burning one catches fire. The Hospitaler is nowhere to be seen in the clear and open desert]
~From the film Kingdom Of Heaven.
- In a (maybe) gentler fashion, every other government in the world is likewise going to have to make that choice or get voted out (or worse) and of course some like China and Russia (or for that matter, France, Israel and the UK) will also be doing so under whatever Continuity Of Government options they have going as their nuclear forces will *Have* to be on alert as well.
- If you think Israel's government doesn't fall next? You're wrong. Half the country hates Netanyahu.
- The rest of the world will very rapidly blackball, blacklist and sanction us just like we're 1990's Serbia and even those who want to help will likely not be able to do anything for fear of the consequences to themselves.
- We will very rapidly find ourselves alone in the dark with not much more than itchy trigger fingers and the creeping feeling that the whole rest of the damn world is pointing their guns at us.
- And honestly?
- They're gonna have to.
- Why?
- Because we just crossed the line from untrustworthy asshole to homicidal (if not genocidal) maniac.
- You think high gas prices suck??
- Wait until there isn't any.
- For the average person, things quickly escalate from expensive to unlivable.
- Because if you think the people who didn't plan the Iran War correctly have planned for what the rest of the world will do about it if we murder innocent people with nuclear weapons?? LOL.
- Every billionaire, every enabler, every government official, every member of the military finds themselves Persona Non Grata with the rest of the world, and very likely facing warrants for their arrest or that it's just plain open season on their ass.
- If you think America itself doesn't come flying apart under the pressure of all this? Oops.
- The United States Armed Forces is already falling apart due to incompetence and mismanagement.
- The rest of the world snaps on us because we did something horrible, with all the division and fault lines in this country already?? America shatters, too.
- Remember, Trump is a narcissist. He will demand that people choose HIM over their own families.
- But he's not in the kind of position where that's a good move.
- Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen. ~Ezekiel 16:49-50 (NIV)
- Remember all the Whiny posts from "Conservatives" during COVID-19?? You think that was bad?? You ain't seen nothing yet.
- Think what's happening to Russians in Moscow and St. Petersburg who don't understand why they can't put gas in their cars, just for a start.
- Power grids, Comms, Supply lines go first, government next. We do not have enough force for this, either. In fact, whatever bandits pop up probably will be the local cops.
- And we very, very rapidly end up with a United Nations stabilization force jammed up our ass that basically nobody with a brain in their head is going to do anything to stop (keeping in mind our forces likely won't be able to, either) and those who take exception to Chinese and Fijian and Ghanaian and Indian and Nigerian and (yes) Qatari and Saudi troops and officials and NGO's showing up and starting to try to un-fuck this mess for us, secure our nuclear (and other) weapons for disposal and all-around making sure this bullshit never happens again will find themselves arrested (and likely, incarcerated in some pretty bad places) shot, or if they're lucky on trial in The Hague right along with Keg-Breath and Trump where at least the food will be edible and some of the things that happen in British or Turkish prisons will be less likely.
- If you don't think the rest of the world will ruthlessly stamp out the idiocy and privilege and racism and religious zealotry that caused this shit, you're wrong.
- Lots of Kens and Karens will find themselves physically impressed to do physical labor fixing shit. You don't like it? Take it up with Senior Aircraftman Afolabi and his Type 56 assault rifle.
- Whiteness?? LMAO. Good luck with that.
- 2nd Amendment?? Well that was great when we had a government that could enforce anything.
- If we do this, America will not be remembered well.
- Remember, the rest of the world hasn't been profligately expending all their best munitions in a war nobody asked for.
- The rest of the world does not have billionaires shoveling embezzled government funds into their pockets, either.
- These fucking people are hell-bent on bringing God's wrath on this country.
- His Wrath will be forthcoming. And Man will be glad to be its instrument.
- Repent, for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand.
- The Evangelical worship of Force as a means of exacting compliance is no different from that of the Empire in Star Wars and will lead to the same bad end. It's human nature to resist.
- You either believe in civilization or you don't.
- Might wanna remember that if the shit hits the fan.
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- The Holy Quran says it, "Pilgrimage to the House [of God built by the prophet Abraham] is a duty men owe to God; those who are able, make the journey." (3:97) Allah said: "And proclaim the pilgrimage among men; they will come to you on foot and upon each lean camel, they will come from every deep ravine" (22:27). Every one of the thousands at the airport, about to leave for Jeddah, was dressed this way. You could be a king or a peasant and no one would know. Some powerful personages, who were discreetly pointed out to me, had on the same thing I had on. Once thus dressed, we all had begun intermittently calling out "Labbayka! (Allahumma) Labbayka!" (Here I come, O Lord!) Packed in the plane were white, black, brown, red, and yellow people, blue eyes and blond hair, and my kinky red hair -- all together, brothers! All honoring the same God, all in turn giving equal honor to each other. . . .That is when I first began to reappraise the "white man." It was when I first began to perceive that "white man," as commonly used, means complexion only secondarily; primarily it described attitudes and actions. In America, "white man" meant specific attitudes and actions toward the black man, and toward all other non-white men. But in the Muslim world, I had seen that men with white complexions were more genuinely brotherly than anyone else had ever been. That morning was the start of a radical alteration in my whole outlook about "white" men. ~Malcolm X.
- [Luke's X-wing is in the trench, and Darth Vader is having trouble getting a lock]
- Darth Vader: [Gets a lock] I have you now. [Suddenly, one of Vader's escorts is destroyed.] What?!
- Han Solo: YEAH-HOO!!! [The Millennium Falcon arrives on the scene.]
- Vader's Escort: Look out! [Vader's surviving escort panics and crashes into the trench, and Vader's TIE Advanced is flung out into space]
- Han: You're all clear, kid! Now let's blow this thing and go home! [Luke shoots at the exhaust port and with the help of the Force]
- Imperial Officer: Stand by.
- [The Rebels and the Millennium Falcon fly back to Yavin 4]
- Officer: Stand by.
- [Just as the Death Star is about to fire, it explodes]
- Han: Great shot, kid! That was one in a million!
- Obi-Wan Kenobi: Remember... the Force will be with you, always.
- ~From Star Wars: Episode IV: A New Hope.
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